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Chicken Box 223

7/16/2014

 
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This box was submitted by a competition BBQ team to be scored on appearance by Certified Online BBQ Judges at BBQCRITIC.COM
T G
7/15/2014 07:43:51 pm

7

Chunks in sauce are way too big, garnish is all over the place and this box of chicken just doesnt look appealing at all. It doesnt even look like pieces of chicken, it looks like globs of jelly in a box.

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7/15/2014 08:21:43 pm

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MoleBS
7/15/2014 08:44:23 pm

5 sauce cant be larger then 1/8 inch

George
7/15/2014 11:10:40 pm

I would request the Table Captain to get a Contest Rep ruling. The large onion pieces are illegal garnish and the entry should be disqualified.

Ike, KCBS CBJ
7/15/2014 11:46:37 pm

Score: ??

I would be showing this to the contest rep as it should probably be disqualified.

RandyE
7/15/2014 11:51:46 pm

This looks more like an Italian dish than BBQ. DQ'ed, pieces are to large in the sauce. By KCBS rules.

Brenda VanderZanden
7/16/2014 12:27:15 am

6
Greens are sloppy. Chunks on the chicken pieces are not appealing - consider blending your sauce to smooth consistency. Nice sized portions that fill the box.

PS KCBS CBJ, BBQ BRETHREN
7/16/2014 12:37:36 am

Score 7 The sauce is too chunky.

Erle Smith; KCBS CBJ & CTC
7/16/2014 01:01:27 am

8 - Overall a very nice presentation, good color of the product and a nice sheen from the sauce. However, the garnish extends a tiny bit beyond the confines of the lower section and maybe beyond the box. Not a big deduction, could have happened in transport from the turn-in table? Also the chunks in the sauce appear bigger than the allowed 1/8" - something to look at for the cook. Good job overall.

Doyle KCBS CMJ/CTC
7/16/2014 01:09:41 am

I like the look, however, I would have to call the Rep over and have them look at the sauce. I believe that it is in violation of Rule 13 of the KCBS Rules and Regulations therefore getting a score of 1 for appearance.

MIke Cannon
7/16/2014 01:33:35 am

7 - I don't like the vegetables.

Liney
7/16/2014 01:40:02 am

I would score this an 6. The chucks in the sauce do take away from the presentation.

Jim H - CBJ SBN/KCBS
7/16/2014 01:40:42 am

Score/reasons = 6/While the meat looks tasty, it also looks like fried chicken nuggets. It's so covered by whatever that is on it that I can't tell for sure that it's even chicken.

Lorne Rad
7/16/2014 02:32:41 am

A DQ in my BBQ association - foreign object in box. The meat is covered in sauce and ONIONS! This is a meat competition not an onion or sauce event. The pieces are of different sizes. Layout is OK. Not appealing.

Doug KCBS MCBJ & CTC
7/16/2014 02:38:13 am

Score = 1 DQ, from KCBS Rules #14: "Chunks are to be no larger than a fine dice approximately 1/8 inch cubed. Sauce violations will receive a one(1) in appearance." I see several chunks in the sauce that are larger than 1/8 inch cubed.

Bobby Whitefield
7/16/2014 03:18:08 am

Really too much sauce overpowering the pieces of chicken., A 5.

BLUESMOKE KCBS MCBJ/COMP COOK
7/16/2014 03:46:41 am

DQ on Appearance if KCBS, Chunks are bigger than 1/8-inch in sauce.

John - KCBS / MCBJ, CTC, Rep; MBN & MIM Judge
7/16/2014 04:08:16 am

Score/Reasons: Would have to see this box in person, but very probably the appearance score for this box is a 1. KCSB Rule #13, for sauce...in pertinent part: "...Chunky sauce will be allowed. Chunks are to be no larger than a fine dice, approximately 1/8 inch cubed. Sauce violations shall receive a score of one (1) on Appearance." I know the rule says "cubed." And I can see the that the pieces are not cubed, per se, but they DO appear to be very large when scaled against the size of the chicken pieces.

Suggestions/Comments: Mince the chunks used in sauce. Not only will doing so eliminate a question of legality at the judges table, it will also keep a Rep from having to make a decision...and some Reps probably will allow it while other Reps probably will DQ it...and the uncertainty that goes along with it. Either way, a questioned or challenged box almost always becomes a tainted box in the judges minds. Besides, smaller pieces in a sauce make for a better appearance, IMHO.

JeffT
7/16/2014 05:51:35 am

According to KCBS rule 14, I would have to give you a 1 on appearance. If you choose to use chunky sauce, the chunks of are required to a fine dice no larger than 1/8 inch. Even if chunks were allowed, I personally don't care for the appearance as it looks like it was taken from a chinese buffet, not a smoked BBQ competition. If your sauce is really a flavor profile that you think will win over the taste of the judges, try dicing smaller and lighten up on the sauce a little bit. It looks over sauced. Although not judging the garnish, you should try to balance the parsley and lettuce evenly in the box. It looks like it was rushed to finish it.

Shawn-KCBS CBJ CTC and Comp Cook
7/16/2014 05:53:03 am

1. Chunks are to be no larger than a fine dice, approximately 1/8 inch cubed. Sauce violations shall receive a score of one (1) on Appearance.

Larry MCBJ
7/16/2014 06:31:02 am

DQ - Sauce has over 1/8 in. ingredients.

Glenn, KCBS CTC, CBJ
7/16/2014 06:56:40 am

6 - This is the type of box that gives me trouble. I always like to give credit to cooks who try something different but I'm not sure what this box is trying to accomplish. Trying to get past the sauce the individual pieces don't look very uniform or appetizing. Not sure what this would taste like. I definitely would like to see this box in person.

Vern - MCBJ/KCBS
7/16/2014 07:41:11 am

1 - DISQUALIFIED! 1/8 inch chunk in sauce KCBS rule. Looks tasty, good placement, odd garnish mix. Almost looks like the bird was battered and then sauced ???

Raine® KCBS CBJ CTC Team member link
7/16/2014 09:40:45 am

Score/Reasons = According to rule #14 have to give it a 1.

14) Chunks are to be no larger than a fine dice, approximately 1/8 inch cubed. Sauce violations shall receive a score of one (1) on Appearance.

The onions in the sauce are definitely larger than 1/8". Makes the entry look like it is fried, lumpy like it was battered. However it has nice color.

Suggestions/Comments = I don't really know what to think about the garnish. What was this team thinking? It is a hodge podge of lettuce and parsley. Please give the garnish some thought or leave it out.

william holladay ( scba )
7/16/2014 01:29:12 pm

6- I really hate to give that score because it looks as if you spent a lot of time on this box. There is too much sauce, and the onion is hiding the chicken. Skin looks rubbery, and the color looks off. Also, the two different garnishes are detracting from the appearance of box.

Tim Mornard
7/16/2014 01:32:03 pm

Not sure that is a legal entry. Those chunks look pretty darn big...

Dennis M
7/16/2014 03:12:43 pm

Score 7

Chunks in sauce look larger than allowed by KCBS rules. Might be a DQ.

Scott Armstrong MCBJ
7/16/2014 10:31:19 pm

1 Disqualified
Chunks in sauce much larger than 1/8"

Ed KCBS MCBJ
7/17/2014 02:08:21 am

Well then, I see a DQ, pieces of onion in the sauce are easily bigger than 1/8". Besides being buried in that green stuff, the pieces are all but unidentifiable, and look like they are covered by some gravy.
If they're are not DQ'd I'd give them a below average 5.

Bob CBJ/KCBS
7/17/2014 02:36:56 am

Disqualified

Sauce with oversized vegetable pieces.

Tom – CMJ/KCBS;CBJ/MBN,NCPC,NCBS,NCBBQA & comp cook
7/17/2014 03:47:16 am

Score/Reasons = NA. See below... [if determined to be legal by the REP (which it isn't) then I'd give this entry a 6.

Suggestions/Comments = This is NOT a legal entry per KCBS rules = sauce must not have chunks greater than 1/8th inch cubed. The REP would be the one to disqualify this entry NOT the judge.

Deb KCBS MCBJ/CTC
7/17/2014 03:58:38 am

Score/Reasons: 6; However, I'm afraid this might be a DQ due to the large chunks of what appears to be onion in the sauce. Reason: it looks like there wasn't a great deal of care taken in either cooking the chicken or assembling the box and displaying the meat. The chicken has an orange-y color that is rather off-putting.

Comments/Suggestions: Hopefully, this was just a bad day for the cook. In the future, it might be a good idea to puree the sauce to avoid the chunkiness issue.

Hank CBJ/KCBS
7/17/2014 05:27:41 am

Score= 7

Not a fan of the chunky glaze unappealing appearance.

jaja01 KCBS MCBJ CTC
7/17/2014 08:30:15 am

Score/Reasons = 5, just does not look appetizing. I gave it a five, but in a contest, this box would be DQ'd because of, what looks like onions, which are present. The objects are considered foreign object because they are large than 1/8 inch.

Suggestions/Comments = Use less sauce, sauce should be used as a condiment and not to smother the meat. Also, be careful how spices and herbs are used. Make sure they are less than 1/8 inch in size.



Eric, CMBJ
7/17/2014 10:18:36 am

Score/Reasons = This will most likely end up being changed to a 1 after I record a score of 7, wait until everyone records their score, and then request that the TC contact the Contest Rep. Chunky sauce is allowed but must be a fine dice, about 1/8 of an inch cubes. I might also request a confirmation of the "veiny" garnish used on the left and right sides of the box.

Suggestions/Comments = Hone your knife skills. The sauce is applied too thickly and unevenly. The varied garnish distracts from the meat. I can't really explain why beyond this, but it just doesn't look appetizing.

cogeo
7/18/2014 04:21:16 am

Score = 7

Then after presentation had been scored at the table, I would get the attention of the table captain and challenge this entry.

14) Chunks are to be no larger than a fine dice, approximately 1/8 inch cubed. Sauce violations shall receive a score of one (1) on Appearance

Jean
7/18/2014 03:58:50 pm

1. I know we are not supposed to look at the greenery, however this greenery is very distracting to me. I would have a hard time giving a good appearance score because of the greenery.
2. I cannot see the chicken due to the size of the chunks of onion in the sauce that covers the chicken. Matter of fact I believe these chunks to be larger than what is acceptable according to KCBS rules. I would question as to whether this box is legal due to the size of the onion chunks.
If not disqualified I would give it a 6.

Sandi link
7/19/2014 03:57:08 am

By KCBS rules this one would be DQ'd. Chunks of onion in the sauce are too large. Onion set aside, I'd probably give it a 3. Sloppy looking. Pieces not uniform in size. And I know we're not supposed to judge garnish but that garnish looks like what was left in the bottom of the bag.

Rod.
7/21/2014 10:37:39 pm

6 possible 7 the sauce is too chunky and uneven .

GregG KCBS/MCBJ, CTC
7/22/2014 04:05:31 am

1- While nice looking, via KCBS rules the chunky sauce would prompt the REP to invoke rule 13 "Chunky sauce will be allowed. Chunks are to be no larger than a fine dice, approximately 1/8 inch cubed. Sauce violations shall receive a score of one (1) on Appearance."

Homer
7/22/2014 05:04:26 am

I Like the color of the chicken and would give it a 8 or 9, but it is disqualified for chunky sauce, some of the pieces are bigger than 1/8 inch.

Enrico, CBJ/KCBS
7/23/2014 02:20:24 am

1, because imo, the sauce is like sculptured meat. The sauce has such a big pieces to be recognable like sculptured meat

RonnieB
7/23/2014 03:14:29 am

6-too much sauce


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