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Ribs - Box 27

8/6/2011

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Jim B

8/6/2011 05:03:12 pm

6

Burnt

Then again, let's just change that to a 5. Looks really bad.

Am I still being too generous?

scott b link

8/6/2011 05:09:36 pm

5
looking a bit over cooked dry

Sandra

8/6/2011 05:13:53 pm

5 - sorry, looks like jerky. Over cooked for sure. Looks like it would be so tough. Remember, we eat with our eyes first. :)

CBJ Chef Derek.

8/6/2011 05:25:33 pm

I give that a 4 And I will tell you why.

Let's start with the meat.

1.It's over cooked by the pull back of the rib.

2.The trimming is horrible.

3.The sauce on the meat looks burnt.
The meat it self looks burnt.

4.The trimming looks really horrible as well.

5.The garnish looks "old" and not really done well.

My 2 cents.

Geoff

8/6/2011 11:07:50 pm

6

Chef Derek, since you are a CBJ, you would know not to score a box on garnish!

Phil White

8/6/2011 11:48:29 pm

I agree with Geoff plus those are perfectly cooked ribs pull back just right although if i was ajudging id have to give it a 5 just looks sloppy uneven cuts,uneven sauce simply dont make me want to eat 1

mkevenson

8/7/2011 12:42:05 am

CBJ/Comp cook

6

First box pic where the box isn't there.

Same comments as above

Mike/ CBJ

8/7/2011 01:46:29 am

8
apperance of the meat. That's what we are suppose to judge. You people don't know if it's over cooked!!!

BBQ Bubba

8/7/2011 01:52:35 am

CBJ, comp cook, Pitmaster

7

You guys are rough!
Overcooked? Trimming? Parsley?

Judy link

8/7/2011 02:19:04 am

CBJ

7

Judy

8/7/2011 02:30:55 am

CBJ

7

And could it be because it's a real tight (closeup) shot with excellent lighting, which shows more detail than we are used to??? Just a thought. But the trimming is lacking.

Tim CBJ annd Comp cook

8/7/2011 03:53:52 am

6
I see a lot of problems with this, but I'll just go with this.

First, display the meaty end up, not the bone end. If the bone edn is in fact overcooked, it won't stand out so much.

Make a straight trim when you cuts the slab down. The angle doesn't od much for appearance.

You guys here to beat up on folks or help them out?

Whose ever box this is has posted it hoping to get help and you use terms like horrible and such. If you judge the same way that some of you are commenting, you ought to learn to put yourself in the cooks shoes when you do.

Jon Davis

8/7/2011 04:13:11 am

CBJ
7
If the ribs were a little more uniform in the box, and maybe not quite so "dark" in spots the score would be higher. Maybe be a little smoother on the sauce. Also id like to say that after looking at your greens I would say NOTHING about them because ITS A MEAT contest! Im sorry but there sure are some "harsh" judges out there!

Myron

8/7/2011 11:05:14 am

CBJ/COOK

6

Overcooked? YES. The appearance of this meat looks BURNT, so I say it looks over-cooked.

I don't think judges are here to "beat up people." We are here to be truthful about appearance scores (we have no idea who or what team submitted the pic, so this isn't personal).

Sometimes the truth can be ugly. The cook understands this and will learn from both positive and negative comments. And why are judges commenting on other judges? Doesn't this violate the JudgeMyBox "Etiquette" policy?

Well, I guess I am now violating the policy, so I will shut up. ;-)

Scott Simpson - KCBS CBJ

8/7/2011 07:12:16 pm

7

ribs don't appear uniformly colored and looks like deep brush strokes.

nancy montgomery

8/8/2011 04:02:55 pm

KCBS CBJ and BBQ Team
7-8
I would love to see a CBJ cook all night and half the day and make a box and put the meat in it. and it be a 9. the box has to look Relay bad this is a neat looking box yes the meat looks a bit over cooked but the over all is not bad.

Mike H / Master Judge & Cook

8/9/2011 10:24:55 am

I'd go with a 7, giving the pitmaster... the benefit of the doubt.

The "pullback" on the bones is something I like to see and do not score down for that. but, the surface of the bones and the surface of the top of the meat looks like some carbon buildup! Like they were cooked at a higher temp than usual? The funky angled cuts are not a positive, but not a big negative either. LOOKS like they might be a little overcooked--I'm intrigued, gimme a bite and we'll see how they taste!

Carl Williams,aka Smokinwilly

8/10/2011 05:10:42 am

GBA-CBJ

8

OMG!!!..you guys! This is an appearance review here. You can neither pull test or taste a picture so lets be fair to the submitter. I honestly feel that the one who submitted this box should be given more credit than some have articilated here! With that said; My constructive "APPEARANCE" criticism on this box is...First, you cannot see the complete box to get a good view of the layout. Second, I love to see a good pullback on the bone, it gives me a good indicator of whats to come when I taste it. It does not reflect the rib being overcooked. Third, I love the color and the carmalization. I overlook brush marks unless they are sloppy. Fourth, not trimmed and uneven cut, needs improvement. and Fifth, even though you are only required to put 6 ribs in a box, if you would put more your box would look much better.
For judges consideration:....I always and it is a GBA requirement to attach a note to your score sheet giving constructive criticism back to the cook team.....Smokinwilly!

Carl Williams

8/10/2011 05:16:26 am

GBA-CBJ
Sorry! on my comments above, I left out that we "attach a note to the score sheet when we score 7 and below"!....Smokinwilly!

Ken Hald - CBJ

8/13/2011 08:19:20 am

7 - Perhaps it's the photo but, the ribs do not look that good.

elkski

8/25/2011 01:17:54 am

CBJ
looks worth a try to me. might even snag two while im in there.
9

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